Full FeedUnconfirmed: AirPort issues with Mac OS X 10.4.10
Appletell has found that Airport problems seem to be creeping up in a number of MacBooks. The threads on Apple’s discussion forums all point to the latest Mac OS X 10.4.10 update. Currently, there are several symptoms that have been reported; these range from dropped connections to kernel panics.
Unfortunately, it is hard to measure these sorts of issues because the numbers are usually skewed (only those who are actively experiencing the problem will report it). In the past, Mac OS X 10.4.10 has also faced similar difficulties with the audio sub-system, causing the speakers on Intel Macs to make random “pops” and “snaps”.
There’s been no official word or updates from Apple with regards to this issue.
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Sorry for losing my temper. I was just feeling fed up and beaten down. :) I spent the last 2.5 hours downgrading to 10.4.9, and so far everything is working super fast. It’s as if 10.4.10 was a bad dream….or was it….? ;)
on July 19, 2007 at 02:13 AM - LINKLook, I’m not the typical Apple “fanboi” who will defend them to no end, i.e. I won’t say Apple doesn’t make mistakes. But to come out of the gate and say that Windows computers “never” have any problems? Come on folks…let’s be realistic here. OVERALL (generally speaking), Macs are more stable and more secure than Windows PCs. Yes, this is a frustrating problem - I’m experiencing it too. And it makes matters worse that many of you are experiencing this out of the box because it appears to be a 10.4.10 issue. I’ve had my Macbook for over a year and really don’t have any complaints. But to say that one slip up by Apple means they’re the worst company in history? I don’t think so. Just try to keep things in perspective. They’ll get it fixed - just maybe not as soon as you expect. Unfortunately, we’re not their only clients and this probably isn’t the only fire they’re trying to put out.
on July 19, 2007 at 06:38 PM - LINKI cant believe this discussion is still going on! We contacted apple and they said “Keep Checking Back”. We are done.
This was also our first apple product and prob our last!
We have a heated Pc Vs. Linux Discussion going on here why dont you guys chime in with your Apple love?
http://www.asktheadmin.com/2007/07/let-debates-begin.html
on July 19, 2007 at 06:43 PM - LINKI’m not saying that stupid MS is great. It isn’t, and the whole Vista mess is a fiasco. I was just disappointed that right after the switch there was such a frustrating (albeit atypical) software glitch. I’m good now as long as I’m back online with 10.4.9, and I can be patient now until Apple comes out with an apporpriate patch. It’s all good.
on July 19, 2007 at 11:35 PM - LINKProblems! Skype works. Mail works. Firefox…no. FTP…sometimes. Adium…no.
on July 20, 2007 at 12:43 PM - LINKI have 2 MacBook Pros and 2 MacBooks that drop now all day long. Didn’t happen until 10.4.10. Aiport n.
Fixit apple
on July 21, 2007 at 11:39 PM - LINKI have followed this instructions and it solved this problem in my Macbook: http://taisteal.atomiclemur.com/2007/06/how-tiger-10410-killed-my-wireless-and-how-i-fixed-it/
on July 24, 2007 at 09:52 AM - LINKIt has something to do with the battery and with the airport. Whenever I disconnect my power cord. It will either a) freeze and crash, which ALWAYS makes my heart stop beating, or b) I will loose my internet connection AND (a) happens shortly after that! It like a freakin Windows machine…
This sucks. When is Apple releasing an update. Or are they forcing us to buy the new OSX?!!
on July 24, 2007 at 05:45 PM - LINKGrrrr…this is really getting to be too much. MBP drops every 1/2 hr. Was fine before 10.4.10
on July 24, 2007 at 11:19 PM - LINKI have an iBook G4 and only noticed these exact problems when I switched Airport on. I started getting random Kernel Panics, Safari crashes and other weird system behaviour—including my mouse pointer freezing!
on July 25, 2007 at 08:10 AM - LINKso THAT’s what my problem is… I’m also getting major kernel panics whenever my wifi accesses my friend’s Airport
on July 26, 2007 at 02:49 AM - LINKMy MBP has not had any issues with airport drop outs.10.4.10 has been fine for me, i use an Airport Extreme router and no KP’s to speak of.
on July 26, 2007 at 05:49 AM - LINKI have a new macbook pro with 10.4.9 and I’ve been having a horrible experience with this product. It is good to see others that can verify that it is real.
-The retail workers where I purchased this machine tell me it is not a problem on their end, but a problem with my AT&T SBC Global DSL service and their 2wire modem. They say the technology is incompatible.—However this does not seem to be the case, since other users w/the issue are not using this modem.
There is also a discussion going on here: http://www.macrumors.com/2007/07/10/mac-os-10-4-10-and-macbook-airport-issues/
I purchased the newest model of the 2wire, which an apple care person advised, and everything works fine as long as the macbook pro is connected to a power source…once it is unconnected the whole computer crashes. This machine did this two days after I purchased it. Let me also mention that I have exchanged this machine at least 3 times and every computer does the same thing. I am really disappointed with my apple experience.
on July 26, 2007 at 10:59 AM - LINKI’m having the same problem.
on July 26, 2007 at 07:05 PM - LINKI must be missing something.
How can it be a problem with the router if Airport works fine when you use external power _or_ you boot the same machine into Windows and run in any power mode? Or if you use some previous version of OSX?
Since Apple is blaming this problem on routers, apparently they aren’t going to address the problem. I am hoping this is a nasty rumor ...
on July 30, 2007 at 03:31 AM - LINKApple have just released a fix, available via updates
on July 31, 2007 at 07:34 PM - LINKthis still happens for me, after all updates, all else. and it happens on a desktop that doesn’t have wireless as well as my macbook pro
on August 12, 2007 at 03:42 PM - LINKHaving problems with apple WiFi?
Me too, apple seems perfectly happy to let this be, ignore, and deny the problem. Fact is that they could add a button very much like “Repair this connection” to their airport icon that totally resets the wifi hardware, driver, and releated settings, but they’re too busy cleaning organic soy latte out of their black turtlenecks to fix it ATM.
SOLUTION HERE SOLUTION HERE SOLUTION HERE
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YOU HOWEVER CAN RESET IT!!! Just go into the network settings for your airport card.. add an arbatrary wireless network (doesn’t have to be real) then delete it, this will allow you to click on the apply changed button, which then FULLY resets your airport card. Which will then reconnect flawlessly.
I’m sure there is a command line option (maybe with ifconfig? to do this) But I don’t know it, this was the simpleist way I could find to do it, I’m also sure that apple could add the same function into their airport menu until they fix their flawed drivers… but that would mean admitting a mistake and incorporating a temporary band-aid solution, not job’s style.
on August 25, 2007 at 01:19 PM - LINKI have read all the posts and glad to see that i am not the only one who has the same trouble. It seems that this trouble doesn’t occur only on MacBooks with Tiger but also G4 iBook and Leopard.
on September 29, 2007 at 01:23 PM - LINKIt is almost end of September. There is still no update :(
I have kernel panics something like once a month but network connection drops randomly. Networ is not up more than 10 minutes when running from battery.
Actually, they did release an update which came out at least a month ago. It showed up as a patch under software update and since installing it, I haven’t had any issues. Sounds like you may have some other issues going on.
on September 29, 2007 at 02:43 PM - LINKDear Russ,
Whenever my Software Update application warns me that there are new updates, I download them all. I guess it should already have been updated it.
My software version for Network Utility: 1.4.2 (50)
SMC and EFI firmware updates are said to be up to date. There is no pending software update.
Thank you
on September 29, 2007 at 04:48 PM - LINKPinar
well i saw on one mbp new oe after upgrade
the problem is that it is cropping the wifi just on one airport base station extreme! none on airport express base station…
and if i remember right i was doing also an upgrade of the airport…not particulary the 10.4.10
on October 12, 2007 at 01:10 PM - LINKintel 2.4
“Come on folks…let’s be realistic here. OVERALL (generally speaking), Macs are more stable and more secure than Windows PCs.”
No YOU be realistic. Actually USE a Windows box that isn’t your mom’s spyware infected junk, and then really compare. The simple fact is, that this simply isn’t true. Ever since Windows XP SP2, Windows has been the fastest, most stable of the two. If you have used both in a pro environment, you’d know this. You can argue that you prefer the experience in the Mac OS. But it’s much slower, and less stable. OS 9 was faster than OS X. Really.
Apple has done an amazing job of spin and of supressing the press on their quality control. It’s been terrible for a quite a few years now. They sold 2 years worth of broken 23” cinema displays, an entire batch of the complete crap 1st gen macbooks. Never a single acknowledgement of fault. Apple does NOT “just work.” This wireless issue is the the latest snow job while they sell pretty products that function at an inferior level. No other company has gotten away with more quality problems than Apple Computer. THAT’s realistic.
on October 14, 2007 at 06:02 PM - LINKi’ve had the same issues with my pb g4… now, it doesn’t see my router and network diagnostics won’t even launch… the panics started coming every 10 or so minutes and i just continued to be patient with it… time is resetting to 1970, applications launch at start up that weren’t initially setup to launch, kernel panics, battery level unclear, strange shut down messages, cracked apple at restart, eyeball appearing along with a file at restart… very weird… going to genius bar tomorrow morning… wish me luck… any suggestions?? this is my first mac and i’m thinking of buying a imac just for my pictures… got an external drive because i couldn’t trust it anymore…
on October 17, 2007 at 01:18 PM - LINKWe’re still having issues with dropping connections. Over 10 different types of routers, and still happening.
Great to see Apple is so concerned. NAAAAT!
on October 19, 2007 at 12:34 PM - LINK