Full FeedUnconfirmed: AirPort issues with Mac OS X 10.4.10
Appletell has found that Airport problems seem to be creeping up in a number of MacBooks. The threads on Apple’s discussion forums all point to the latest Mac OS X 10.4.10 update. Currently, there are several symptoms that have been reported; these range from dropped connections to kernel panics.
Unfortunately, it is hard to measure these sorts of issues because the numbers are usually skewed (only those who are actively experiencing the problem will report it). In the past, Mac OS X 10.4.10 has also faced similar difficulties with the audio sub-system, causing the speakers on Intel Macs to make random “pops” and “snaps”.
There’s been no official word or updates from Apple with regards to this issue.
Via [Apple Discussions]
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Same thing happened to my macbook, and apple refuses to help me properly diagnose and fix the problem unless i buy the added technical support. You’d figure if you buy a 3000 dollar comp they could help you with a problem caused by their software. Seriously dissapointed with apple.
on March 25, 2008 at 03:10 PM - LINKyup. i have the same problem, and i thought it was just me, or a lousy router connection etc.. i have had our local dsl service out twice already to check the signal, have switched modems, and have a practically new airport. i can barely stay on for more than 5 minutes without my connection being dropped, even though the signal is steady.
i have gotten used to it, but it is a major pain to keep having to reset the connection.
it would be nice to have this fixed. imagine that, a continuous internet connection. wow. what an idea.
on April 4, 2008 at 03:11 PM - LINKI just started having this problem with the lost wi-fi and disappearing network a few days ago. I have an iBook G4 running 10.4.11. The wireless connection has been perfect until this last week. Now its just frustrating.
on April 5, 2008 at 04:07 AM - LINKI have had this problem for almost 5 months now, with 10.4.8(came installed) to 10.5.2, not even an acknowledgment from Apple.I use all Apple branded equipment, no 3 rd party haxies or unusual programs at all.This has me fuming and after some so-called fixes all resulting in more problems than solutions, I refuse to recommend Apple to anyone!!!
To really add insult to injury Win XP SP2 used via Bootcamp does not exhibit this behavior, I am sickened that I spent $2500 to rely more on an OS that irritates me the heck out of me.If this POS laptop had not lost so much value, It would be gone.
I have about 20 years experience with Apple/Windows computers and this is not user error.My friends core duo MacBook does not do this either on the same network.
Yes I am fuming!!!
on May 3, 2008 at 10:33 PM - LINKYes, me too, it started a couple of months ago. Dropped connections, regular as clockwork. When I SSH to my Virtual Private Server, it hangs after a few minutes inactivity. It also seems to interrupts the wireless on another (Windows) laptop on the same desk. Pretty annoying ... is there a fix yet, otherwise how do I downgrade?
Cheers, Dave.
on May 5, 2008 at 02:17 AM - LINKIm haveing the same problem affter doing the last “wireless” update and its for my home network and now it will it will give me and “error joining the Airport network “—-”
If thiers a fix a way to rollback this update please someone help.
Thank you.
on May 13, 2008 at 11:48 AM - LINKHi All,
I speak about the iBook middle of 2005 edition 12” and 14”.
on May 13, 2008 at 01:19 PM - LINKIt has design problem. Sure. point. The very delicate connector of the Airport card sit on a very warm place. That caused lose connection and make Kernel panic. Apple changed the connector type in other laptops but this mistake that made here not want admit and try to show face that they do not know about. It is not possible that after 14 months of correct use I not have computer and wrote more than 3 letters to Apple and not got any positive answer from them to solve this problem.
I will not buy Apple product until they fix this problem.
Think about it.
laci
I have found the solution (link will explain how to fix),,
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa threadID=1463799&tstart=255
on May 14, 2008 at 02:50 AM - LINK...The link is a half link. Also the full link not finding any explanation.
on May 14, 2008 at 04:02 AM - LINKHope first you can explain how to fix the link and after the ibook.Thanks
laci
My problem (see above) occurs even with a hard-wired LAN connection (i.e. Airport turned off). I reckon it happens after about a minute inactivity. Doesn’t happen with my G4 Cube on the same LAN with same OS revision.
The upshot is, I can’t administer my VPS from the laptop, and I’m away from home quite a lot at present. Grrr ..
Looking forward to the repaired link.
on May 14, 2008 at 12:06 PM - LINKFirst downloaded the Pacifist trial located @ http://www.charlessoft.com , I then downloaded the previous Airport Extreme Update, 2007-004 located @ http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/airportextremeupdate2007004.html. Then I installed the Pacifist trial, and replaced the file “IO80211Family.kext” that’s currently installed from the 2008-001 update with the older one inside the 2007-004 update .pkg.
—=-=-
For those reading who don’t know what to do..
1. Go to Mac HD > System > Library > Extensions and drag the current IO80211Family.kext into the trash (it should be around 2.6MB)
2. drag the .kext from the 2007 pkg folder in Pacifist into the Extensions folder (this .kext should be 1.2 MB)
3. Restart your computer
and Sig.. following these steps changes your firmware from a 1.3.5 back to a 1.1.9.3
on May 14, 2008 at 12:15 PM - LINK-=-=-=
It worked for me any many other.
for got to mention to inf you what the link to Apple discussion click ony name ‘jay’ (notice its blue now)
on May 14, 2008 at 12:18 PM - LINKHmmm, don’t think I have Airport Extreme on my 15” G4 Titanium, so will this make any difference to my problem, esp. as it occurs when hard-wired?
The link from “jay” should be:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1463799&tstart=255
(on one line, of course), but it contains hundreds of “fixes”. Still confused. Perhaps there’s more than one problem.
on May 14, 2008 at 12:30 PM - LINKwhat about this problem….I just start the computer and have kernel panic even install the original disk. After the new installation >>restart>> immediately get kernel panic….Hardware problem Design problem….Please..Apple people attention…you let alone your soldiers on the battle field.
Hi All,
I speak about the iBook middle of 2005 edition 12” and 14”.
on May 14, 2008 at 12:33 PM - LINKIt has design problem. Sure. point. The very delicate connector of the Airport card sit on a very warm place. That caused lose connection and make Kernel panic. Apple changed the connector type in other laptops but this mistake that made here not want admit and try to show face that they do not know about. It is not possible that after 14 months of correct use I not have computer and wrote more than 3 letters to Apple and not got any positive answer from them to solve this problem.
I will not buy Apple product until they fix this problem.
Think about it.
laci
David Poyner, If you reed at my 2 lat comments I explained the solution and then added the link to Latest Airport Update Problem. just so you can read it for your self and also if you want to read the full discusion.
The soutions of the entire link is this:
First downloaded the Pacifist trial located @ http://www.charlessoft.com , I then downloaded the previous Airport Extreme Update, 2007-004 located @ http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/airportextremeupdate2007004.html. Then I installed the Pacifist trial, and replaced the file “IO80211Family.kext” that’s currently installed from the 2008-001 update with the older one inside the 2007-004 update .pkg.
—=-=-
For those reading who don’t know what to do..
1. Go to Mac HD > System > Library > Extensions and drag the current IO80211Family.kext into the trash (it should be around 2.6MB)
2. drag the .kext from the 2007 pkg folder in Pacifist into the Extensions folder (this .kext should be 1.2 MB)
3. Restart your computer
and following these steps changes your firmware from a 1.3.5 back to a 1.1.9.3 (About this mac > more info.> under network/ AirPort Card)
on May 14, 2008 at 12:45 PM - LINK+My AIM AOL: johndavp
Laci im not shure what your exact problem, it its a design flaw not shure if thiers a solution.
I will recommend you to find help @
http://discussions.apple.com/index.jspa
and posible google your problem and or look at other sites.
Good luck.
on May 14, 2008 at 01:09 PM - LINKHi jay,
on May 14, 2008 at 05:29 PM - LINKThanks for the advise.
People whom has I book can confuse all these kernel panic.
The fact is that after 14 months of use no more Airpor/wireless on the middle of 2005 ibooks 12” and 14”. Tried to write Apple also.
In the site that you advised they deleting all messages contacted with this problem. If take off the Airport card no more kernel panic and no more wireless as well. Totally hopeless situation and I am naturally do not alone with this problem. Sure I not buy more Apple product for my sorry.
Best regards,
laci
This is true - Apple needs to fix this very soon.
I had a terrible experience at the Genius Bar in the Apple store today - the guy (aka Genius) said they’ve never heard of the issue, had to show him user discussions around it to prove my point. Anyway, he said the issue is with Verizon wireless (my ISP) and then started repeating the same thing again and again and again louder and louder and louder - what a jerk.
He didn’t understand that I had another Macbook without the update working perfectly fine on the same network and this Macbook (1,1 Core Duo) with the security update not working.
BTW, on the core2duo Macbook’s you can just roll back the security update and apply 2007-004 update and you’ll be fine. However, if you have a coreDuo Macbook, the same approach will not fix the issue (I haven’t found the right fix yet).
on May 26, 2008 at 10:10 PM - LINKMy Airport sucks too. 2.16 core 2 duo with 10.5.4. Signal cuts out, and I have to unplug and replug the AirPort Extreme router. Had this problem ever since 10.5. My 12 inch G4 PB never had this problem. Forgive me if I’m not “Really excited” about this Mr. Jobs!
on July 6, 2008 at 12:53 PM - LINKi bought a macbook air thinking this was the way forward….. i have had it for 3 months now and it has given me nothing but headache. it will not connect to my netgear router, linksys router or belkin router, i have spent too much money chopping and changing now
the problem is the opposite at home as i can log onto wireless so easily, but at work the dam thing will not connect, it finds the router but on connection, it says connection timed out.
i have called apple, gone to see them, they have said the airport is fine, so now i bought the usb connection to connect to the net, and wow it works, but i thought apple was the best at things…. i dont have wireless now at work and have conceded defeat now.
at work i have a vaio laptop that connects fast, pcs connected with linksys adaptor, that connects to a linksys router. so why doesnt the apple connect, to a router that allows mac connection, i will never know!
on July 28, 2008 at 04:48 PM - LINKNo issues have been reported regarding to wireless problems. Is it over ? Has everybody fixed it? I am thinking to send my macbook to repair..
on October 17, 2008 at 05:58 PM - LINKMy problems just started about 2 weeks ago ( Mac OS X 10.5.5 )
Connection to the wireless works perfect on other computers + on my iPhone, but the connection on my macbook pro keeps fluctuating from a full to an empty bar.
Also, I’ve noticed that having a full bar doesn’t mean I can access internet. My mac network detection varies between 7 and 0 networks found…
I hope they come up with a patch/solution fast.
on October 29, 2008 at 06:51 AM - LINKBeat this guys, When trying to connect to my network my entire MacBook froze… After 10 minutes of this I eventually just had to hold the off button…
The hard drive now only clicks.
Blinking folder with the question mark sometimes.
Cant boot from disk, use firewire target mode or anything.
This turned my (out of warranty) MacBook into a useless slab. :)
on November 25, 2008 at 03:14 PM - LINKAll hail Apple…
I think we need to join forces and contact apple..because we paid money for a good working product..
on November 27, 2008 at 01:38 AM - LINK.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Same
“Connection on my macbook keeps fluctuating from a full to an empty bar.”
I can only avoid this by ping google.com nonstop
on April 4, 2009 at 07:42 AM - LINK